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- From: krw@together.net@krw@together.net
- Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
- Subject: Re: External modems are nonsense
- Date: 13 Jan 1996 03:58:37 GMT
- Organization: TGF Internet Services
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- In <4d4b1r$fuk@usenety1.news.prodigy.com>, davidsen@tmr.com (bill davidsen) writes:
- >In article <4d3d1e$8eq@shellx.best.com>, Matt Fox <Rigor@clever.net> wrote:
- >| > biggest drawbacks of internals modem is lack of creativity of the
- >| designers
- >| > and the limited hardware and operating system supported.
- >| >>--
- >|
- Sorry if I break the nettiquite here, but the original reply to my post
- doesn't appear on my server. (It did at work several hours ago).
-
- >| MAN! I WANT YOUR DRUGS!
- >|
- I'm sure you do. It's called oxygen.
-
- >| as far as operating systems go (linux or dos) theres no difference
- >| to the operating system if the modem is internal or external. it just
- >| cant tell the difference.
-
- Not true, blue-in-the-face (as long as we're using names here). Have
- you ever heard of an RPI modem. If not you're lucky! They only
- work under DOS/WIN. Not DOS, but DOS/Win.
-
- Modems are not necessarily the things that you plug into the 25 (or 9
- as you may have it) pin connector in the back of your komputer and
- into your fone line. They can do much more. Mine is also a sound card
- with general Midi, SP Pro, telephony, and a bunch of other things.
-
- In another form the same chips also are the only fully homolugated
- (sorry for the multisylabic word, damn did it again) in the market. That
- means even your parents would approve.
- >
- >I think that's what he means. An internal modem doesn't have to look
- >like a serial port, so you could, in theory, do some really nifty
- >things with it.
- >
- Yes, this is exaclty what I mean! My modem looks nothing like a modem
- except for the connectors.
-
- >Of course what people miss is that we already have a fast serial
- >port, called ethernet. If people can sell an NE2000 clone for $25 at
- >a computer show, it just flat couldn't add that much to the price of
- >a modem, given that the UART they use cost something. This makes a
- >lot more sense with ISDN, since a POTS modem is unlikely to ever go
- >much faster than the ones we have now. And unless most of the
- >theories about how information is processed are disproved, that's
- >not going to happen.
- >
- The limitation is not the PC, at least yet. It's the POTS stuff. I agree
- in principle with what you're saying, but modern I/O still needs bus
- mastering, not just bandwidth.
-
- >We are about on the fuzzy edge of what will go through a 56-64k
- >phone connection, and information theory has come far enough in 30
- >years that I don't believe there's another factor of two hanging
- >around to be found.
-
- This reminds me of a good friend of mine about 20 years ago. Matt,
- you can go to bed now. He was demonstarting a Geo-Sync sattelite
- link to some execs and they didn't like the delay (2 round trips of
- 23K miles add up to about 1/2 second). Tehe execs demanded that
- the delay be removed.
- >
- >Still, with ISDN and cable coming along, I see no reason why
- >ethernet connection won't come along. They're on some ISDN modems
- >now, by the specs.
-
- It's called cable modems. Remember though, the industry is very optimistic.
- A friend was working on ISDN when I started working over 20 years ago. It
- still hasn't really hit the prime time.
-
- >--
- > -bill davidsen (davidsen@tmr.com)
- >I will support laws and technology which limit what you are allowed
- >to hear, if you will oppose laws and technology limiting what I am
- >allowed to say.
- >
- Spoken (typed?) like a true libertarian.
-
-